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Maplesoft Document System Tue, 09 Jun 2026 09:27:58 GMT Tue, 09 Jun 2026 09:27:58 GMT The latest comments added to the Post, Why is Maple last? http://www.mapleprimes.com/images/mapleprimeswhite.jpg MaplePrimes - comments on Post, Why is Maple last? http://www.mapleprimes.com/posts/96059-Why-Is-Maple-Last A web page with a Maple dagger http://www.mapleprimes.com/posts/96059-Why-Is-Maple-Last?ref=Feed:MaplePrimes:Why is Maple last?:Comments#comment96150 I remember crossing this webpage a while back <a href="http://amath.colorado.edu/computing/mmm/brief.html">http://amath.colorado.edu/computing/mmm/brief.html</a> and I happen to cross it again, it's a brief description of the three M's ( Maple Mathematica Matlab ) Now, I'm not sure how old it is but what bothers me about this page is that is states Mathematica IS the premier all-purpose mathematical software package.  Also stating that the only drawbacks is that it's hard to learn and it's steep price but nothing about it's drawbacks in functionality.  Doesn't say much for Matlab and pretty much places Maple at the end comparing that it does the same things Mathematica does, then goes on to state drawbacks where it's interface is less superior to Mathematica's.  In a quick google search of `Mathematica Maple Matlab` that is the first page that is pulled floating in the internet sea.  Obviously this page has a Mathematica slant or is quite biased towards it.  Regardless of how old this page is anyone wanting to see the differences between the 3 M's will come across this page and if it's their only deciding opinion will, probably, most likely decide to purchase Mathematica.  This is why I would call this webpage a page with a Maple dagger.  No it doesn't force one to go with Mathematica but it certainly persuades one choice to go towards Mathematica.  I'm not saying this webpage was the deciding factor for someone but I'm willing to bet it certainly had a fairly significant influence.  That webpage tells someone exactly what they want to hear, brief and to the point.  It's too bad I haven't been able to find a webpage like that with a slant towards Maple.  However, being a Maple user I'd like to think, that I have an overall advantage over the rest of the field. The latest comments added to the Post, Why is Maple last? 96150 Sat, 21 Aug 2010 06:27:27 Z Christopher2222 Christopher2222 Comparison of CAS is not correct http://www.mapleprimes.com/posts/96059-Why-Is-Maple-Last?ref=Feed:MaplePrimes:Why is Maple last?:Comments#comment96151 <a href="http://www.mapleprimes.com/posts/96059-Why-Is-Maple-Last#comment96150">@Christopher2222</a>  The comparison of CAS on the cited page is not made correctly. For example, see position 19 on parametric plots, where no building of parametric plots in Maple is stated. The latest comments added to the Post, Why is Maple last? 96151 Sat, 21 Aug 2010 07:22:05 Z hirnyk hirnyk Functional vs. Procedural http://www.mapleprimes.com/posts/96059-Why-Is-Maple-Last?ref=Feed:MaplePrimes:Why is Maple last?:Comments#comment96162 <a href="http://www.mapleprimes.com/posts/96059-Why-Is-Maple-Last#comment96150">@Christopher2222</a>  The argument about "Mathematica's <a href="http://amath.colorado.edu/computing/mmm/funcproc.html">functional</a> programming language", and "Maple's programming language <a href="http://amath.colorado.edu/computing/mmm/funcproc.html">procedural</a> -- like C or Fortran or Basic -- although it has a few functional programming constructs" is a quite old one. I have heard it repeatedly in the 90's as Maplesoft ambassador in Argentina. And the basis for this argument in the page <a href="http://amath.colorado.edu/computing/mmm/funcproc.html">Functional vs. Procedural Programming Language</a>: <blockquote>Overall, Maple is a procedural language. It has only a few of the basic functional programming constructs that characterize a functional language and its pattern-matching capabilities are very limited. See a Maple programming tutorial:</blockquote> is an "online" tutorial dated 1994, <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/*/http%3A//www.tnt.uni-hannover.de/soft/math/maple/program/program.html">not available online</a> since 2006 or so. This page then spikes it with a Mathematica marketing blurb quote: <blockquote>Mathematica's functional programming constructs, and allow you to do many things in one line that would normally take several loops in other languages. Remember, ``if you aren't programming functionally, you're programming dysfunctionally''! When you add and into the mix, you can do some pretty powerful things in a couple of lines...</blockquote> However, this article omits saying that Maple has these functional programming constructs as well (see also Carl Devore's post at the end of <a href="http://shell.cas.usf.edu/~wclark/maple_or_mathematica.html">this review</a>). Actually, I have never seen a detailed comparative review Mathematica vs Maple in this area. May be that very few persons have enough expertise with both programming languages. And I find that Maplesoft marketing has not been active enough on this point. What is true, is the weakness of Maple in the area of pattern matching and rule-based programming, see e.g. <a href="http://www.mapleprimes.com/posts/39690-Maple-Patch-Library-independent#comment93112">this subthread</a>. The latest comments added to the Post, Why is Maple last? 96162 Sat, 21 Aug 2010 22:35:58 Z Alejandro Jakubi Alejandro Jakubi Comparison of Mathematica and Maple http://www.mapleprimes.com/posts/96059-Why-Is-Maple-Last?ref=Feed:MaplePrimes:Why is Maple last?:Comments#comment96187 There's a site called WikiVS which hosts comparison of things, amongst them is software. I don't know how reliable it is but there's a relevant page there: http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/Maple_vs_Mathematica The latest comments added to the Post, Why is Maple last? 96187 Mon, 23 Aug 2010 05:32:41 Z omega09 omega09 slant http://www.mapleprimes.com/posts/96059-Why-Is-Maple-Last?ref=Feed:MaplePrimes:Why is Maple last?:Comments#comment96205 <a href="http://www.mapleprimes.com/posts/96059-Why-Is-Maple-Last#comment96187">@omega09</a> The webpage seems to have a Mathematica bias and a lot of negative slant towards Maple.  The only negative mathematica comment was about the new flythrough feature that Maple has.  On another note.  Googling golden rectangle brings up yet another mathematica page, I'm sure there's code someone's done somewhere in Maple.  Perhaps Mapleprimes could add an extra forum topic like for example the 3M analysis warroom topic (a place where maple users can up the ante on pages produced by either mathematica or matlab) it could generate some added positive feedback to maplesoft to make their product better.  The latest comments added to the Post, Why is Maple last? 96205 Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:57:48 Z Christopher2222 Christopher2222 Size of Companies http://www.mapleprimes.com/posts/96059-Why-Is-Maple-Last?ref=Feed:MaplePrimes:Why is Maple last?:Comments#comment96207 I don't know how much this info matters, but compare the #no of employees: Maplesoft: ~120 Wolfram Research ~300 Mathworks: ~1700 (all numbers are just googled, so not reliable) So one could assume that the two latter companies have more free hands to develop their stuff. But this is probably a milkmaid calculation [  <- bad english I guess :p ] The latest comments added to the Post, Why is Maple last? 96207 Mon, 23 Aug 2010 16:02:08 Z Oliver K Oliver K