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      <title>guess, that can not work</title>
      <link>http://www.mapleprimes.com/questions/123502-Once-Again-An-Asymptotic-Series-Problem?ref=Feed:MaplePrimes:Once again an Asymptotic series problem:Comments#answer123503</link>
      <itunes:summary>&lt;pre&gt;# using the notations in your sheet&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;Digits:=15;&lt;br&gt;combine(((subs(S0=S01,parvals,A0))),exp):&lt;br&gt;v:=convert(%, rational);&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;eval(v, l=0) indicates there is a division by l&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;series(v, l=0, 1);&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;This gives fct(R3)/l + terms of higher orders&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;But something like R/a does not give a reasonable result&lt;br&gt;for asympt(%, a)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Guess you need to work with v*l ...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PS: you should avoid variables like l (lower case L)&lt;br&gt;they are easily mixed up with the constant 1 (=2/2)&lt;/pre&gt;</itunes:summary>
      <description>&lt;pre&gt;# using the notations in your sheet&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;Digits:=15;&lt;br&gt;combine(((subs(S0=S01,parvals,A0))),exp):&lt;br&gt;v:=convert(%, rational);&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;eval(v, l=0) indicates there is a division by l&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;series(v, l=0, 1);&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;This gives fct(R3)/l + terms of higher orders&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;But something like R/a does not give a reasonable result&lt;br&gt;for asympt(%, a)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Guess you need to work with v*l ...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PS: you should avoid variables like l (lower case L)&lt;br&gt;they are easily mixed up with the constant 1 (=2/2)&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 18:15:56 Z</pubDate>
      <itunes:author>Axel Vogt</itunes:author>
      <author>Axel Vogt</author>
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      <title>some experiment / plot</title>
      <link>http://www.mapleprimes.com/questions/123502-Once-Again-An-Asymptotic-Series-Problem?ref=Feed:MaplePrimes:Once again an Asymptotic series problem:Comments#answer123525</link>
      <itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;Here some animated plot, it seems that for increasing lambda (=your lower case L)&lt;br&gt;there may be no solution for negativ R3 - could that be?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="/view.aspx?sf=123525/416582/increasing_lambd.gif"&gt;&lt;img src="/view.aspx?sf=123525/416582/increasing_lambd.gif" alt=""&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Here some animated plot, it seems that for increasing lambda (=your lower case L)&lt;br&gt;there may be no solution for negativ R3 - could that be?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="/view.aspx?sf=123525/416582/increasing_lambd.gif"&gt;&lt;img src="/view.aspx?sf=123525/416582/increasing_lambd.gif" alt=""&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <guid>123525</guid>
      <pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2011 12:52:04 Z</pubDate>
      <itunes:author>Axel Vogt</itunes:author>
      <author>Axel Vogt</author>
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      <title>Re: some explanation of a few points</title>
      <link>http://www.mapleprimes.com/questions/123502-Once-Again-An-Asymptotic-Series-Problem?ref=Feed:MaplePrimes:Once again an Asymptotic series problem:Comments#answer123550</link>
      <itunes:summary>&lt;pre&gt;1. "By plotting it is 'obvious', that for r=0 this is always negative (so r&lt;br&gt;must decrease to have a chance to fullfill F=0."&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;The above point you mentioned should be understood as&amp;nbsp;&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;when R3=r=0, this means that the gravity factor is ignored, so it is now&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt; irrelavant that whether liquid is above vapour or vapour is above liquid.&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt; Bcoz If gravity is zero then the problem, instead of a vertical through flow&amp;nbsp;&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;becomes a  horizental flow problem. which is always stable thats why we have&amp;nbsp;&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;sigma&amp;lt;0, for all l=lambda. &lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;2. "&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;For lambda = 10^3 and 10^4 compute solutions for F=0 with an initial&lt;br&gt;guess of r = -2*lambda which then defines a line equation&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lin := lambda -&amp;gt; -1.591517842027199990210998791356366512040*lambda&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; +2.229559088349405643936812337536203057778&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;"&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;This means that for large l=lambda the system is marignally stable, i.e., sigma=0&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt; for large lambda. to me thats fine.&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/pre&gt;</itunes:summary>
      <description>&lt;pre&gt;1. "By plotting it is 'obvious', that for r=0 this is always negative (so r&lt;br&gt;must decrease to have a chance to fullfill F=0."&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;The above point you mentioned should be understood as&amp;nbsp;&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;when R3=r=0, this means that the gravity factor is ignored, so it is now&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt; irrelavant that whether liquid is above vapour or vapour is above liquid.&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt; Bcoz If gravity is zero then the problem, instead of a vertical through flow&amp;nbsp;&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;becomes a  horizental flow problem. which is always stable thats why we have&amp;nbsp;&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;sigma&amp;lt;0, for all l=lambda. &lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;2. "&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;For lambda = 10^3 and 10^4 compute solutions for F=0 with an initial&lt;br&gt;guess of r = -2*lambda which then defines a line equation&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lin := lambda -&amp;gt; -1.591517842027199990210998791356366512040*lambda&lt;br&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; +2.229559088349405643936812337536203057778&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;"&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;This means that for large l=lambda the system is marignally stable, i.e., sigma=0&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt; for large lambda. to me thats fine.&lt;/pre&gt;
&lt;pre&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/pre&gt;</description>
      <guid>123550</guid>
      <pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2011 23:14:45 Z</pubDate>
      <itunes:author>kh2n</itunes:author>
      <author>kh2n</author>
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      <title>Thx</title>
      <link>http://www.mapleprimes.com/questions/123502-Once-Again-An-Asymptotic-Series-Problem?ref=Feed:MaplePrimes:Once again an Asymptotic series problem:Comments#answer123586</link>
      <itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;I really appreciate your help and patients. Do you use Tecplot or have any information about it?&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;I really appreciate your help and patients. Do you use Tecplot or have any information about it?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <guid>123586</guid>
      <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2011 00:06:13 Z</pubDate>
      <itunes:author>kh2n</itunes:author>
      <author>kh2n</author>
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      <title>analytical solution ?</title>
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      <itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;in reply to &lt;a href="http://www.mapleprimes.com/questions/123502-Once-Again-An-Asymptotic-Series-Problem#comment123641"&gt;http://www.mapleprimes.com/questions/123502-Once-Again-An-Asymptotic-Series-Problem#comment123641&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;(because comments do not give updates to a thread ...)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Khan,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I guess you mean eq (3) in your attached pdf?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sorry, my knowledge about DEs is too much limited for a reasonable answer,&lt;br&gt;may be others can help - but for that it would be better to open a new thread&lt;br&gt;with a specific question (this one here is becoming quite long now and usually&lt;br&gt;nobody would step in, as s/he would have to read everything before).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For checking symbolical solutions there commands in Maple like &lt;a href='http://www.maplesoft.com/support/help/search.aspx?term=odetest' target='_new'&gt;?odetest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But best would be to start a new thread &lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;in reply to &lt;a href="http://www.mapleprimes.com/questions/123502-Once-Again-An-Asymptotic-Series-Problem#comment123641"&gt;http://www.mapleprimes.com/questions/123502-Once-Again-An-Asymptotic-Series-Problem#comment123641&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;(because comments do not give updates to a thread ...)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Khan,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I guess you mean eq (3) in your attached pdf?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sorry, my knowledge about DEs is too much limited for a reasonable answer,&lt;br&gt;may be others can help - but for that it would be better to open a new thread&lt;br&gt;with a specific question (this one here is becoming quite long now and usually&lt;br&gt;nobody would step in, as s/he would have to read everything before).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For checking symbolical solutions there commands in Maple like &lt;a href='http://www.maplesoft.com/support/help/search.aspx?term=odetest' target='_new'&gt;?odetest&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But best would be to start a new thread &lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <guid>123686</guid>
      <pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 11:28:48 Z</pubDate>
      <itunes:author>Axel Vogt</itunes:author>
      <author>Axel Vogt</author>
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      <title>oops</title>
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      <itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;I mixed up while dividing :-(&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyway, find it attached &lt;a href="/view.aspx?sf=123505/416505/Kopie_von_R3Infintyp.mws"&gt;Kopie_von_R3Infintyp.mws&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;I mixed up while dividing :-(&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyway, find it attached &lt;a href="/view.aspx?sf=123505/416505/Kopie_von_R3Infintyp.mws"&gt;Kopie_von_R3Infintyp.mws&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <guid>123505</guid>
      <pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 19:52:14 Z</pubDate>
      <itunes:author>Axel Vogt</itunes:author>
      <author>Axel Vogt</author>
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