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      <itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;It can be done as follows.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; with(PolynomialIdeals):&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; J :=&amp;lt;x^2+1&amp;gt;;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="data:image/png;base64,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" alt=""&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;alias(alpha = RootOf(z^2+1));&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;alpha;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;PD:=PrimaryDecomposition(J, alpha);&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="data:image/png;base64,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" alt=""&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;Simplify(PD);&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="data:image/png;base64,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" alt=""&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;See &lt;a href="http://www.maplesoft.com/support/help/search.aspx?term=PolynomialIdeals[PrimaryDecomposition]"&gt;?PolynomialIdeals[PrimaryDecomposition]&lt;/a&gt; for more info.&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;It can be done as follows.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; with(PolynomialIdeals):&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; J :=&amp;lt;x^2+1&amp;gt;;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="data:image/png;base64,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" alt=""&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;alias(alpha = RootOf(z^2+1));&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;alpha;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;PD:=PrimaryDecomposition(J, alpha);&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="data:image/png;base64,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" alt=""&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt;Simplify(PD);&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="data:image/png;base64,iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAZoAAAAUCAIAAAA7qWwoAAACBklEQVR4nO3cobKCQBQG4H0UH8Bo8CE2+AgGg8FAIBicIfgABB/CQDAYCEaigYcwGAzGDYS9wZHL4GEBl+Gccf4vcb2L+5f9B1dEWQCAn6C4AwAADAN1BgA/gq6zoijiOB45ShAEXYZJzgYAjOg6S9P0er2OHCWKovv93jpMcjYAYETX2Xa7LYpi5ChZlh0Oh9ZhkrMBACOizh6PB9dnq8Vi4R4gORsA8CLqbL/fn8/n8aNYazebTZ7njgE+2ZTy+t6jNRsA8CJW+Hw+N8aMH8VamyRJGIaOAT7ZPOusNRsA8Kqv8DzPl8vl/7/fyuPBJq68s313jTFmOp02bY15Zuse/otsAMCuvsLX6/XxeKwPGrTIbKVZVMXrFa11lmXkWZ7Z+g7rlQ0A2NVX+GQyeT6f9UHNRaCcmk75fIfyzziOoygiT5ScDQDY1Vf1arUir4CGnNJZGVrry+VCnuiZrcvIr7MBALuWvTP7XuEDNpqjMnrtnfXN5lln2DsDEI5Y4bPZrPz2sLqRNNiUlY6ofvRTSiVJ4r6tzCdbxzr7OhsA8KLvO0vT1FJre7BZP/awXsdBELzu7Wqazidb99ZzZwMAmWT9KkBrXR6T7SMkGwAIRF+whGHI8rvI8lEZjisp9mwAIBPdGqfTafynVux2u9vt1jpMcjYAYETXmTFG7DPFJGcDAEZ/d7ywDqNhspEAAAAASUVORK5CYII=" alt=""&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;See &lt;a href="http://www.maplesoft.com/support/help/search.aspx?term=PolynomialIdeals[PrimaryDecomposition]"&gt;?PolynomialIdeals[PrimaryDecomposition]&lt;/a&gt; for more info.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 22:47:00 Z</pubDate>
      <itunes:author>Markiyan Hirnyk</itunes:author>
      <author>Markiyan Hirnyk</author>
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      <title>Remark</title>
      <link>http://www.mapleprimes.com/questions/130314-Primary-Decomposition-Over-C?ref=Feed:MaplePrimes:Primary Decomposition over C:Comments#comment130324</link>
      <itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;To say exactly, this is the primary decomposition over Q[sqrt(-1)].&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;To say exactly, this is the primary decomposition over Q[sqrt(-1)].&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <guid>130324</guid>
      <pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:21:52 Z</pubDate>
      <itunes:author>Markiyan Hirnyk</itunes:author>
      <author>Markiyan Hirnyk</author>
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      <title>for this approach to work, you need to guess/know</title>
      <link>http://www.mapleprimes.com/questions/130314-Primary-Decomposition-Over-C?ref=Feed:MaplePrimes:Primary Decomposition over C:Comments#comment130366</link>
      <itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;for this approach to work, you need to guess/know alpha=\sqrt(-1) in advance. for more complicated ideals, i can not do that. Is there a way to let maple find the smallest 'decomposition field' necassary?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;for this approach to work, you need to guess/know alpha=\sqrt(-1) in advance. for more complicated ideals, i can not do that. Is there a way to let maple find the smallest 'decomposition field' necassary?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <guid>130366</guid>
      <pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 15:42:33 Z</pubDate>
      <itunes:author>DanielR</itunes:author>
      <author>DanielR</author>
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      <title>Another cup of tea</title>
      <link>http://www.mapleprimes.com/questions/130314-Primary-Decomposition-Over-C?ref=Feed:MaplePrimes:Primary Decomposition over C:Comments#comment130369</link>
      <itunes:summary>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.mapleprimes.com/questions/130314-Primary-Decomposition-Over-C#comment130366"&gt;@DanielR&lt;/a&gt; Firstly, this is another question. Your question is answered. Secondly, your next question is rather a mathematical question than a Maple related question. Have you tried to ask that in &lt;a href="http://mathoverflow.net/"&gt;http://mathoverflow.net/&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; ?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regard, Markiyan Hirnyk&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;PS. The two cites from Maple Help:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1."By default, ideals are factored over the domain implied by their coefficients - usually the rationals or the integers mod p.&amp;nbsp; Additional field extensions can be specified with an optional second argument k, which can be a single RootOf or radical, or a list or set of RootOfs and radicals"&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. "The algorithms employed by these commands require polynomials over a perfect field.&amp;nbsp; Infinite fields of positive characteristic are not supported. Over finite fields, only zero-dimensional ideals can be handled because the dimension reducing process generates infinite fields"&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</itunes:summary>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.mapleprimes.com/questions/130314-Primary-Decomposition-Over-C#comment130366"&gt;@DanielR&lt;/a&gt; Firstly, this is another question. Your question is answered. Secondly, your next question is rather a mathematical question than a Maple related question. Have you tried to ask that in &lt;a href="http://mathoverflow.net/"&gt;http://mathoverflow.net/&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp; ?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regard, Markiyan Hirnyk&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;PS. The two cites from Maple Help:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1."By default, ideals are factored over the domain implied by their coefficients - usually the rationals or the integers mod p.&amp;nbsp; Additional field extensions can be specified with an optional second argument k, which can be a single RootOf or radical, or a list or set of RootOfs and radicals"&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. "The algorithms employed by these commands require polynomials over a perfect field.&amp;nbsp; Infinite fields of positive characteristic are not supported. Over finite fields, only zero-dimensional ideals can be handled because the dimension reducing process generates infinite fields"&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:44:49 Z</pubDate>
      <itunes:author>Markiyan Hirnyk</itunes:author>
      <author>Markiyan Hirnyk</author>
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