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@nm 
No, it is not expected that simplifying/size checks the syntax of the functions entering an expression; as explained in its help page, it only does a structural analysis of it to shorten its length. Thus, simplify(eq, size) will return the shortening it achieves without any error message. In contrast, simplify(eq) will explicitly call the routine to simplify integrals among others, and the syntax will get checked at some point, resulting in the error message you see.

Edgardo S. Cheb-Terrab
Physics, Differential Equations and Mathematical Functions, Maplesoft

@Kevin Dragnet 

Indeed there is something wrong with the help. It is now tracked in the database of issues, to appear fixed in the upcoming release. Meantime you can access the page directly, either entering ?Mini-Course, or from the Physics help browser colum that appears on the left, as per this image:

 

I will give a look at the question you mentioned about Alias later today.

Edgardo S. Cheb-Terrab
Physics, Differential Equations and Mathematical Functions, Maplesoft

Hi
Entering ?Mini-Course I get the right help page (the mini-course). This page is also linked in all the Physics commands' help pages. It might be that one of them has a wrong hyperlink ... Exactly how are you trying to enter this page?

Edgardo S. Cheb-Terrab
Physics, Differential Equations and Mathematical Functions, Maplesoft

@lemelinm 

It actually appears exactly as you show. Use the Vectors:-Component for the lhs and the LeviCivita and d_ for the rhs.

Edgardo S. Cheb-Terrab
Physics, Differential Equations and Mathematical Functions, Maplesoft

@Carl Love 
:):):) !!! I sometimes have these gaffes! Indeed the documentation of this package is good, I think but indeed this help page for ChangeCoordinates is just missing! 

The command was introduced in Maple 2015, and it is mentioned there in the page ?updates,Maple2015,Physics, in the section for the Vectors package, also with examples of its use - the basics for its help page. I will move that material into a new help page filling the gap.

Edgardo S. Cheb-Terrab
Physics, Differential Equations and Mathematical Functions, Maplesoft

Hi, would you mind please uploading a Maple worksheet with your input/output/expectation? Also, explain please what you do mean by "we want Maple to reconstruct them" Reconstruct what? H? e? What is the meaning of zeta[2] [e 0 , e 1 ]? 

To upload your worksheet please use the Green arrow. Uploading your worksheet helps to help you, avoiding others having to retype or copy and paste things that may not be correct Maple syntax.

Edgardo S. Cheb-Terrab
Physics, Differential Equations and Mathematical Functions, Maplesoft

@vv 

Indeed, I agree with @Rouben Rostamian, yours is beautiful and inspiring tackle!

Best!

Edgardo S. Cheb-Terrab
Physics, Differential Equations and Mathematical Functions, Maplesoft

@snpa 
Would you mind please uploading a worksheet with your question, presented, as in "After having entered this and that (shown) I enter "this" and expect XXX but receive YYY".  In that way, the question is sufficiently clear and helping you becomes simpler. To upload the worksheet please use the green arrow you see when replying or posting a question.

Edgardo S. Cheb-Terrab
Physics, Differential Equations and Mathematical Functions, Maplesoft.

@michalkvasnicka 

This issue in MapleCloud is now fixed, so the problem is resolved.

Edgardo S. Cheb-Terrab
Physics, Differential Equations and Mathematical Functions, Maplesoft

@itsme 

Thanks for your new post; the problem was inadvertently introduced in March during one more round of improvements in SortProducts, and is fixed in the Maplesoft Physics Updates v.1015 or newer (for Maple 2021), uploaded earlier today. Attached is what I receive, with all the terms correctly sorted.

physics_sorting_products_(reviewed).mw

Edgardo S. Cheb-Terrab
Physics, Differential Equations and Mathematical Functions, Maplesoft

@nm 

This kind of problem is tackled using differential algebra elimination. There are three computational implementations of that: DEtools:-rifsimp, DifferentialAlgebra and, more recently, DifferentialThomas. The three use different algorithms to accomplish, basically, the same. The algorithms are extended to handle mathematical functions using the approach explained in PDEtools:-dpolyform; i.e.: representing the (non-rational) mathematical functions by (rational) differential equations and auxiliary variables.

This approach is extremely powerful but, depending on the problem, it may hang. The example you are asking about, however, does not hang if a) you tackle it using DifferentialThomas (256 seconds) or more appropriately b) you use convert/exp (0.6 seconds):

Since the output of independentof could be expressed with any mathematical functions, the convert/exp step should be applied by default, directly within PDEtools:-Solve. I will test this idea and if it works as I expect put it in one of the next Maplesoft Physics Updates.

Edgardo S. Cheb-Terrab
Physics,Differential Equations and Mathematical Functions, Maplesoft

@ArashMhasani 

You are using a program you wrote, Ldiff, that I copy and paste here:

Ldiff := proc(f, h, x)
    local n, j, ld;
    if not type(f, 'vector') then
        ERROR("ldiff: 1st argument must be a vector")
    else
        n := linalg[vectdim](f)
    fi;
    if type(h, 'table') then
        if not (linalg[vectdim](h) = 1) then
            ERROR("2nd argument must be a scalar valued function")
        fi
    fi;
    if not (type(x, 'vector') and linalg[vectdim](x) = n) then
        lprint("ldiff: 3th argument is the variable vector and must be \
            defined as ");
        lprint("       an unassigned vector, wrong type or number of el\
            ements, ");
        lprint("       see your model description");
        lprint("  ");
        ERROR("see last comment")
    fi;
    ld := 0;
    for j to n do
        ld := ld + diff(h, x[j])*f[j]
    od;
    simplify(normal(ld))
end

I noticed that, removing the call to simplify, it takes 263 seconds to compute Ldiff(f,z[6],x), the input you say in your worksheet that hangs, resulting on an expression of length 167189212 (see ?length). If you also remove the call to normal,  Ldiff(f,z[6],x) is computed in less than 1 sec and results in an expression of length 846930. It is then unclear the advantage of calling normal. Also, simplify includes normalization, so I would suggest you to just remove the call to normal, and in this particular case of Ldiff(f,z[6],x) remove also the call to simplify.

Edgardo S. Cheb-Terrab
Physics, Differential Equations and Mathematical Functions, Maplesoft

In order to help you, it is useful (necessary) if you post a Maple worksheet (use the Green arrow you see when you post your question) with the problem formulated, including your attempt to compute the Lie derivative, using any of the existing Maple commands for that purpose mainly in the Physics (simpler) or DifferentialGeometry packages.

Edgardo S. Cheb-Terrab
Physics, Differential Equations and Mathematical functions, Maplesoft

@nm 

type(identical(x), type) returns true, so yes it is a type.

Edgardo S. Cheb-Terrab
Physics, Differential Equations and Mathematical Functions, Maplesoft

@Carl Love 

Hi great Carl. In the first two replies I made (found above), I didn't use 'flat'. But then I saw @nm used 'flat', so I imagined that for some reason he wanted to use the 'flat' option. Hence in the third or so reply I illustrated the actual problem of how to match the type (not related to the 'flat' option of subsindets) using his (assumed to be) preference of using 'flat'.

The default of subsindets and evalindets is not flat, so if you do not indicate 'flat', the procedure being applied is applied recursively, as designed. BTW looking at what @nm was doing (application of simplify/radical?) it also seemed natural to use 'flat' since simplify/radical already recurses.

Edgardo S. Cheb-Terrab
Physics, Differential Equations and Mathematical Functions, Maplesoft

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