dharr

Dr. David Harrington

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21 years, 9 days
University of Victoria
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Victoria, British Columbia, Canada

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I am a retired professor of chemistry at the University of Victoria, BC, Canada. My research areas are electrochemistry and surface science. I have been a user of Maple since about 1990.

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@Zeineb I don't see any Maple errors, just a warning that i was not declared in A, which I fixed. You haven't written the integral as an integral with respect to psi, not t - just cancel "dt: in (dpsi/ dt)*dt = dpsi as I did above. I'm not sure what you are trying to do but you still have A's as a function of y's and y's as a function of A, which is confusing.

last.mw

@nm I agree. Indeed, odeadvisor has the option of testing other types, which you would not need if if was intending to return all types.

DEtools:-odeadvisor(ode,y(x),[homogeneous]);

gives

@WA573 In (6)-(8) I only see bars over expressions that contain eta, and are therefore potentially non-real; I don't see any bars directly over n or m alone.

@Zeineb Changing int to Int in Frac_D shows why the integrals are being evaluated as zero. Notice that A[0](x) works as expected but A[0](t) does not. This can be fixed by local t (in red), though this may be a side issue. But the code is confusing because the y[i] are used in the definition of A[n] but are defined later, and I lost track of locals and globals. I suggest you create the A[n] and y[i] one by one  in the right order, and only when it works put it into one loop.

compute_integral.mw

@Zeineb Yes, Maple can do Axel's integral given those assumptions. Simplify (after dividing by GAMMA(alpha)) then gives the form you want.

gives (in Maple 2023):

@nm I agree a better simplification would help here, and I think that was @acer's point - it didn't help. In my answer I said I assumed you wanted the mathematical result, which requires factoring to see if polynomials have common factors, and this then leaves the simplification problem. There is also the issue of how hard you want to look for common factors. But if you only want it to cancel preexisting factors, then it would be done in a different way that might miss potential mathematical common factors.

@epostma I certainly didn't think of that. In my purist view, that is not a unit - certainly my graduate students would never be allowed to write that in a paper, though I see a lot of students find it useful in their assignments.

@acer The math is OK, but the way it appears is certainly ugly. Even in my example, the cubic is messed up in a way that is no longer the conventional way to write it. I originally thought of of using factors on each of the numerators and denominators to try to keep things together, but that does not solve the expansion issue either. (I guess I long ago gave up using Maple to put things in a specifc nice form, because for some example it will fail.)

Edit: It seems that the way that factor normalizes as part of its operation is the central problem, which means it is hard to get around. factor((x+y)^3+x); fails to factor but leaves the answer in expanded form. So it could be improved by returning the original if it failed to factor, but that is probably a lot of additional cosmetic code.

@C_R Thanks - you provided a significant shortening with the nested subsindets, so a definite joint effort.

@C_R  The code could be incorporated into simplify using

`simplify/Unit` := ex -> subsindets(ex, specfunc(Units:-Unit), x -> subsindets(op(x), name, Unit))

and used as simplify(ex,Unit) (the normal seems to be automatic in this case.)

Expansion_of_compound_units_shortest.mw

 

@C_R That's a nice variation. Even shorter is just

subsindets(ex, specfunc(Units:-Unit), x -> subsindets(op(x), name, Unit))

(I had already replied to the other thread when it was deleted. I don't use Units so didn't pay attention to this thread earlier.)

@Axel Vogt If you enter local gamma in 2-D notation and then convert it to 1-D, then it appears as _local(gamma). I assume this is some sort of internal form that is functionally equivalent. But to avoid confusion, local gamma is of course preferred.

@Carl Love @mmcdara When I looked at it I saw similar things to those listed by @Carl Love. I guessed that if you come from a traditional programming language and you see or use X[i,j] then you think that they are array elements, so you promptly declare an array for them to go into. Adding symbol = x just changes the X names for x. My solution was to comment out the array line; then I got stuck on "max" making it unsuitable for a linear problem with binary variable, for which Carl had a nice solution.

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@Preben Alsholm maybe inf=3 was just for debugging, and perhaps there are to be many more odes? I never like this sort of approximation for infinity and prefer to change variables to a finite range, e.g., [0..infinity) to [0..1].

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